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红山文化诸文化古玉.裂的表象【9次】

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-9 12:17:00 | 只看该作者
<p><font size="5"><a  href="http://www.rn-hswh.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#c60a00" size="6">任南红山文化网</font></a>在真假红山玉器鉴定中,把真的辨认出来,是大家的希望.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff0066" size="4">孙守道前辈在民间救出的红山文化古玉表象<font color="#000000"><font size="3">自然态分层开裂....</font> </font></font></p>[upload=jpg]UploadFile/2007-11/200711912162726477.jpg[/upload]<br/>
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发表于 2007-11-9 12:38:00 | 只看该作者
<p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">黑色的表皮应该是腐殖质类的有机碳引起的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></font></p><p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue;"><font face="宋体">真品有漂移感裂开<span lang="EN-US">----</span>;自然态分层开裂<span lang="EN-US">.... </span>。<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">裂纹有隙处也会受自然的侵蚀而塌陷。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">极难以靠人工制作出来的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">大部分裂痕都有矿物溢出</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">而沿着裂痕高出玉表</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">此现象在史前古玉中才有表现</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">此现象是人为不可仿的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue;"><p></p></span></p><p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<img title="dvubb" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em27.gif" align="middle" border="0"/><img title="dvubb" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em27.gif" align="middle" border="0"/><img title="dvubb" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em27.gif" align="middle" border="0"/></p></p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-9 12:42:00 | 只看该作者
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>自然太</i>在2007-11-9 12:38:47的发言:</b><br/><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">黑色的表皮应该是腐殖质类的有机碳引起的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">
                                        <p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue;"><font face="宋体">真品有漂移感裂开<span lang="EN-US">----</span>;自然态分层开裂<span lang="EN-US">.... </span>。<span lang="EN-US">
                                                <p></p></span></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">裂纹有隙处也会受自然的侵蚀而塌陷。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">极难以靠人工制作出来的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red;">
                                <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">大部分裂痕都有矿物溢出</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">而沿着裂痕高出玉表</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">此现象在史前古玉中才有表现</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">此现象是人为不可仿的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;">.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue;">
                                <p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<img title="dvubb" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em27.gif" align="middle" border="0"/><img title="dvubb" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em27.gif" align="middle" border="0"/><img title="dvubb" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em27.gif" align="middle" border="0"/></p><p></p></div><p></p>[em29][em29][em29]
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-10 10:44:00 | 只看该作者
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>qq</i>在2007-11-9 20:49:20的发言:</b><br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue"><font face="宋体"><a  href="http://www.rn-hswh.com/" target="_blank"><font face="Verdana" color="#c60a00" size="6">任南红山文化网</font></a>真品有漂移感裂开<span lang="EN-US">----</span>;自然态分层开裂</font></span></div>
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发表于 2007-11-10 21:25:00 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-11 11:24:00 | 只看该作者
<p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma"><a  href="http://www.rn-hswh.com/" target="_blank"><font face="Verdana" color="#c60a00" size="6">任南红山文化网</font></a>黑色的表皮应该是腐殖质类的有机碳引起的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">
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<p style="TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue"><font face="宋体">真品有漂移感裂开<span lang="EN-US">----</span>;自然态分层开裂<span lang="EN-US">.... </span>。<span lang="EN-US">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm="0cm" 0cm? 2.0;? mso-char-indent-count: 28pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0pt;><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma">裂纹有隙处也会受自然的侵蚀而塌陷。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma">极难以靠人工制作出来的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm="0cm" 0cm? 2.0;? mso-char-indent-count: 28pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0pt;><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm="0cm" 0cm? 2.0;? mso-char-indent-count: 28pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0pt;><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma">大部分裂痕都有矿物溢出</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma">而沿着裂痕高出玉表</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma">此现象在史前古玉中才有表现</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm" 0cm="0cm" 0cm? 2.0;? mso-char-indent-count: 28pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0pt;><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: tahoma">此现象是人为不可仿的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue"> </span></p><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue">
<p><font color="#ff0033" size="5">古玉开裂.自然态.为开裂边有解理状残痕.&lt;需放大观查&gt;.痕纹非直线.应为撕裂状.裂纹口边有溢出状物质.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ff0033" size="5">仿品裂直并向下或斜下走向.而真品有漂移感裂开</font></p>
<p><font size="3">撕裂型也叫横向剪切型,在剪应力作用下,裂纹面上下错开,裂纹沿原来的方向向前扩展,称撕裂型裂纹,也叫3型裂纹。</font></p>
<p><font size="3">高古玉在土下墓中长时间受地引力,温差,游离氧,物理和化学的综合作用,使原本较弱的晶格化学键发生“裂变”而产生绺纹,在土下产生的绺纹绝大多数携带碱性离子而生色相,时而展现出晶格内的弯曲形色带或色丝。这是高古玉的一道特有现象!!</font></p>
<p><font size="3">古玉上的裂痕多是经历极缓慢的压力和侵蚀才形成的,因此常常是玉的表面在中间有裂,而裂纹两头不到。或是从边上看裂的挺大,却并不到头完全裂开,裂纹有隙处也会受自然的侵蚀而塌陷。极难以靠人工制作出来的。</font></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/UploadFile/2007-11/2007111111272872297.jpg" target="_blank"><img title="dvubb" style="WIDTH: 500px" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/UploadFile/2007-11/2007111111272872297.jpg" border="0"/></a></p>
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<p><font color="#f73809" size="4">此浅层开裂.之因不排除清洗表浆层后内应力做用在空气与热度做用下开裂&lt;己有实列明&gt;</font></p>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-12 11:04:00 | 只看该作者
<p><font color="#3809f7" size="4"><a  href="http://www.rn-hswh.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#c60a00" size="6">任南红山文化网</font></a></font></p>
<p><font color="#3809f7" size="4">红山文化的未知未见是不可下定论的.符合自然态的红山与泛红山的遗存不是我们一代能搞明白的.</font></p>
<p><font color="#3809f7" size="4">与三百件国藏品表象不同的认为假的定论.误国误民.孙守道先生鉴别出的三百件表象符合自然态规律.为国为民为红山做出了大贡献.</font></p>
<p><font color="#3809f7" size="4">.孙守道先生鉴别出的三百件表象符合自然态规律之图的发布.更证明学习自然态法鉴别古玉方法<font color="#000000" size="5">在真假红山玉器鉴定中,把真的辨认出来</font>是对的.</font></p>
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发表于 2007-11-13 20:19:00 | 只看该作者
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<p><font face="宋体" size="5">孙守道先生选出古玉的图片</font>&nbsp;<font color="#ff0033" size="5">古玉开裂.自然态</font></p><p><font color="#ff0033" size="5"></font>&nbsp;</p>[upload=jpg]UploadFile/2007-11/2007111915163021344.jpg[/upload]<br/>
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-20 10:25:00 | 只看该作者
<p><font face="宋体" size="5"><a  href="http://www.rn-hswh.com/" target="_blank"><font face="Verdana" color="#c60a00" size="6">任南红山文化网</font></a>孙守道先生选出古玉的图片浅层开裂</font></p>
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